No need to use that CLIP If you do it only meant for 1 set of wires not 2 sets....
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The AD110 aka Amcrest Doorbell Camera
The AD110 aka Amcrest Doorbell Camera
I just wanted to make a Post and let people know that if you are connecting your Camera and your Doorbell keeps going off non stop did you use the Waga Clip that came with your Doorbell... I have yet come to understand why that is in the Package... Some people that have never used this clip might think it was made to put 2 pairs of wires one pair in each hole and it is only designed for 1 set of wires... So if you took your Doorbell wires and put them in the clip left side going to the Transformer and one to your camera then on the right hole you used the wire for your doorbell and the other side of your camera and clicked the clip closed you just made a complete circuit on your Doorbell and it will just keep going off like someone is non stop pressing the doorbell button that used to be there... That is because that CLIP that came with the camera is only for 1 side of the system... Also your camera most likely will not Power on either.. However I have to admit I am not sure how it did but I did help a Friend that did this and his camera would power up and shut down never stay online so while I have seen it to be honest it shouldn't ever happen like that just make your doorbell chime forever go...
No need to use that CLIP If you do it only meant for 1 set of wires not 2 sets....
No need to use that CLIP If you do it only meant for 1 set of wires not 2 sets....
Be Safe.
Re: The AD110 aka Amcrest Doorbell Camera
Well I found something new today I thought i would share... Some people are not very understanding of things..
So First I had a Transformer that I have used for many years and I gave it to a friend of mine to power his Doorbell. It cost me 20 to ship it to him because they weigh a lot. So I will say this Transformer was able to connect 120 or 240vac and I set it up for him to just take and install it as it was and it would have gave him full power... However I get a call today and was told the Transformer was bad or not rated enough to power the camera... He said he didn't understand it and hired someone to install his camera for him that was over a month ago and it worked fine until last night. So spending an hour on the phone I asked him to go turn it back on at the switch... about a min later I hear it say it has connected and camera is working again..
So I talk some more about who and why and what and after all that I had him on a Video Call so I could see what is going on... The person that Installed his Transformer Disconnected it from running full power and the Camera was only working with 1/2 the amps... So when the Person that installed it for him took off my other 2 wires I soldered on the transformer it in a since changed the Transformer from being a 24vac 45va into being a 24vac 22va power supply and seeing that his porch light blew out last night and this changing the Camera from working at color at night into working in B/W with IR on that just wasn't enough power to keep the system powered and to be Honest I am not sure how it was working even at the day time...
Now something that I wanted to also mention.. While we are talking and I found out all that was done with him hiring someone to do the install rather then just listening and doing what I said lol... Anyway within 15 min of the system being back on when he gets down to where the Transformer is installed and where I now see what the Problem was and after I assured him touching it wouldn't kill him he said the Transformer was very warm to the Touch and this would be true because the Transformer is having to work harder to keep the Camera going...
So now here is some info... While some not all Transformers are simple to install. You have 2 post for Mians in and 2 post for your step down output... However some Transformers and some can cost a lot more have Center Tap and or Multi Volt input and maybe you can guess why they cost more then just your normal 2 in 2 out... Anyway if you have 4 wires in and your unit says it is a 45va aka 1.88A output that would be with all 4 populated. ..
Looking down at the Transformer it might say 0 - 117 or 120 then again 0 - 117 on the input.. ON the Output there could be a 12 0 12 and if you were to connect the 2 wires for output on 12 and 12 that will give the 24vac however if you were to use the Center Tap that would give you 12v However for the output to give full power in amps out your system would have to be connected N white wire to 0 and L Black wire to 117 on the left side then for 117 or 120v and full power you would need to jump a wire from 0 to the next 0 and a wire from 117 to the 117 in doing so this would give the full output Amps your Transformer is rated out.. IF your on 220 or 240 this would be connected to the 2 outer wires the ones marked 117 with a Bridge between the 2 center wire post.. See Pictures below
This is Not how I gave it to him but was how it was wired today
This was how I had it wired and this is how it needs to be wired for Full Output
This is what it would look like for people that have one of these that need to wire it for 240v in..
So First I had a Transformer that I have used for many years and I gave it to a friend of mine to power his Doorbell. It cost me 20 to ship it to him because they weigh a lot. So I will say this Transformer was able to connect 120 or 240vac and I set it up for him to just take and install it as it was and it would have gave him full power... However I get a call today and was told the Transformer was bad or not rated enough to power the camera... He said he didn't understand it and hired someone to install his camera for him that was over a month ago and it worked fine until last night. So spending an hour on the phone I asked him to go turn it back on at the switch... about a min later I hear it say it has connected and camera is working again..
So I talk some more about who and why and what and after all that I had him on a Video Call so I could see what is going on... The person that Installed his Transformer Disconnected it from running full power and the Camera was only working with 1/2 the amps... So when the Person that installed it for him took off my other 2 wires I soldered on the transformer it in a since changed the Transformer from being a 24vac 45va into being a 24vac 22va power supply and seeing that his porch light blew out last night and this changing the Camera from working at color at night into working in B/W with IR on that just wasn't enough power to keep the system powered and to be Honest I am not sure how it was working even at the day time...
Now something that I wanted to also mention.. While we are talking and I found out all that was done with him hiring someone to do the install rather then just listening and doing what I said lol... Anyway within 15 min of the system being back on when he gets down to where the Transformer is installed and where I now see what the Problem was and after I assured him touching it wouldn't kill him he said the Transformer was very warm to the Touch and this would be true because the Transformer is having to work harder to keep the Camera going...
So now here is some info... While some not all Transformers are simple to install. You have 2 post for Mians in and 2 post for your step down output... However some Transformers and some can cost a lot more have Center Tap and or Multi Volt input and maybe you can guess why they cost more then just your normal 2 in 2 out... Anyway if you have 4 wires in and your unit says it is a 45va aka 1.88A output that would be with all 4 populated. ..
Looking down at the Transformer it might say 0 - 117 or 120 then again 0 - 117 on the input.. ON the Output there could be a 12 0 12 and if you were to connect the 2 wires for output on 12 and 12 that will give the 24vac however if you were to use the Center Tap that would give you 12v However for the output to give full power in amps out your system would have to be connected N white wire to 0 and L Black wire to 117 on the left side then for 117 or 120v and full power you would need to jump a wire from 0 to the next 0 and a wire from 117 to the 117 in doing so this would give the full output Amps your Transformer is rated out.. IF your on 220 or 240 this would be connected to the 2 outer wires the ones marked 117 with a Bridge between the 2 center wire post.. See Pictures below
This is Not how I gave it to him but was how it was wired today
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Re: The AD110 aka Amcrest Doorbell Camera
Yeah it is mean again.. So I wanted to say there are some ok Videos on the net that show a little insight on Voltage from different Transformers... So one thing I wanted to say while they tried to offer good info and do they sadly fall short... Here is why.. I found a Video that is Great for the Theory of a 16vac 10va transformer VS a 16vac 30va working with a Mech Ding Dong Bell.. I think it was great to give an idea behind the Theory. But they don't talk about a few things and sadly it is kind of important to the whole Voltage AMP thing... That is Wire Size and Voltage Drop over distance...
So in this Video and I am going to make a link to the Video just because I think people need to have a better understanding then me trying to explain over and over again...
However in the 10va 16vac transformer it is not to good of a Quality because it products 21vac and while it is 10va that should only produce little over half an amp at .625 However in the testing Mind you this test was done with NOT MUCH WIRING so there was no voltage drop over distance added into this whole setup... Yet the Transformer produced over 1.2amps however the volts dropped down to 13.35vac or something like that and even that would only give off .75 of an amp...
Then the 30va again this is 1.875amps on a 16vac transformer... The output with no load was little over 17volts if I remember right and the drop was 16.5ac and the amps at the chime was 1.5amps and with that said his Doorbell requires 1.5amps and that translates to 20.05VA on a 16vac transformer...
So first of all I want to say that as of Right now I have mine connected and don't just have extras laying around or I would go take one and do some load testing over distance and different voltage drops over xyz... However right now I just don't have that ability.. With that said Please note that the Version of Ring he is using take less current to run then the Amcrest camera doorbell... I have a friend that has nest working on a 10va and another friend that has a Ring on a 20va yet I don't know the draw of there bell systems but they say they work fine.. So the numbers while they are using the Ring isn't anywhere as close as real world because while working with the doorbell camera it took less power to ring the doorbell chime then it did for current draw... Main reason is because it is a Very short Burst of current, yes where he did the test of the normal button it was total Draw again that could also be done over the doorbell cameras and so one need to keep that in mind.. So could 30va transformer work with his setup and the Amcrest camera? I am going to guess yes as long as someone isn't holding the doorbell or ringing it a million times lol... However I would go with a 45va or better to be on the safe side...
What I people to understand on this and his video shows it is when he connects the Ring doorbell it is only drawing .23amp (To be fair his meter don't go low enough and true amp was .230 aka 230ma) that would be around 3.7va of constant current flowing the whole time and is not that much but again this is for a RING that don't require as much Also as much as I liked the Video he fails to address another issue and that is with IR on and what the Current draw is at that time over the normal day time running of the camera so I am going to guess that the .23 will go to .80amp aka 800ma (ma= milliamps and 1000ma = 1amp) so every one understands better... By the way while his meter didn't show current when the button for the doorbell was lit that is not because there was non it was because the meter didn't go that low
Test at your button it will show the Power of the transformer or at the transformer but if you test on the Doorbell Chime itself your only voltage is very little if you have a lit button no lit button no volt... until you press the doorbell button... This is one way you can tell if you have a short in your system is testing your Voltage at your Transformer and then test it at the button if they are close to the same then wiring for shorts are ok however this don't address the wire not being large enough...
Best way to help understand to small of wire.. Take a Hose and turn it full blast and full a bucket. Then take the hose and screw on a cap that has a 1/8 in hole in it and fill the bucket with the hose full bast and no cap it will fill fast however you put on cap and fill that will be same idea as Voltage Drop
@ 6-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUO7o_vrEMw
So in this Video and I am going to make a link to the Video just because I think people need to have a better understanding then me trying to explain over and over again...
However in the 10va 16vac transformer it is not to good of a Quality because it products 21vac and while it is 10va that should only produce little over half an amp at .625 However in the testing Mind you this test was done with NOT MUCH WIRING so there was no voltage drop over distance added into this whole setup... Yet the Transformer produced over 1.2amps however the volts dropped down to 13.35vac or something like that and even that would only give off .75 of an amp...
Then the 30va again this is 1.875amps on a 16vac transformer... The output with no load was little over 17volts if I remember right and the drop was 16.5ac and the amps at the chime was 1.5amps and with that said his Doorbell requires 1.5amps and that translates to 20.05VA on a 16vac transformer...
So first of all I want to say that as of Right now I have mine connected and don't just have extras laying around or I would go take one and do some load testing over distance and different voltage drops over xyz... However right now I just don't have that ability.. With that said Please note that the Version of Ring he is using take less current to run then the Amcrest camera doorbell... I have a friend that has nest working on a 10va and another friend that has a Ring on a 20va yet I don't know the draw of there bell systems but they say they work fine.. So the numbers while they are using the Ring isn't anywhere as close as real world because while working with the doorbell camera it took less power to ring the doorbell chime then it did for current draw... Main reason is because it is a Very short Burst of current, yes where he did the test of the normal button it was total Draw again that could also be done over the doorbell cameras and so one need to keep that in mind.. So could 30va transformer work with his setup and the Amcrest camera? I am going to guess yes as long as someone isn't holding the doorbell or ringing it a million times lol... However I would go with a 45va or better to be on the safe side...
What I people to understand on this and his video shows it is when he connects the Ring doorbell it is only drawing .23amp (To be fair his meter don't go low enough and true amp was .230 aka 230ma) that would be around 3.7va of constant current flowing the whole time and is not that much but again this is for a RING that don't require as much Also as much as I liked the Video he fails to address another issue and that is with IR on and what the Current draw is at that time over the normal day time running of the camera so I am going to guess that the .23 will go to .80amp aka 800ma (ma= milliamps and 1000ma = 1amp) so every one understands better... By the way while his meter didn't show current when the button for the doorbell was lit that is not because there was non it was because the meter didn't go that low
Test at your button it will show the Power of the transformer or at the transformer but if you test on the Doorbell Chime itself your only voltage is very little if you have a lit button no lit button no volt... until you press the doorbell button... This is one way you can tell if you have a short in your system is testing your Voltage at your Transformer and then test it at the button if they are close to the same then wiring for shorts are ok however this don't address the wire not being large enough...
Best way to help understand to small of wire.. Take a Hose and turn it full blast and full a bucket. Then take the hose and screw on a cap that has a 1/8 in hole in it and fill the bucket with the hose full bast and no cap it will fill fast however you put on cap and fill that will be same idea as Voltage Drop
@ 6-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUO7o_vrEMw
Be Safe.