Hi everyone.
I have IP5M-1173E sitting about 150 feet from the router. I have a 12v 3amp power supply located 30 feet from the camera location, straight connected. Infrared powers on, but the connection to the router comes and goes. My router sometimes will show an IP for the camera but never steady.
I tried another power supply and still no connection. Next I removed the camera and bench tested it again. Everything worked great. At this point I figure I must have a bad cable run. I replaced the ethernet run today and now the infrared is powered on steady but I have no connection to my router. All crimps were triple checked and then some.
I've never had such problems trying to install anything before. I am a home and car audio/video installer and I have dealt with networks before but I am out of ideas at this point. Seems like this is a power/ethernet problem to me. Am I losing power at 150 feet? Is 3amp enough? Is Cat5e enough at 150 feet? Should I ditch the power supply (set up at the camera) and just inject it instead?
Thanks for any help
Grayline23
IP5M-1173E problems
Re: IP5M-1173E problems
Sadly there is a lot of things that can go wrong..
First and easiest thing to do is Test your Camera over same size run cable that your trying to install it on.. No one likes to hear but I am going to guess that it is a cable issue..
However it might be a Power issue as you said you have your Power 30ft from your camera on a 3amp supply? What type of supply is running 12v 3amps at 30ft? Sadly 2amps of power on a 30ft cable even at 18awg size wire is just at the Max Voltage Drop and my guess past a Cable issue is that your Power supply cable could be the issue... However if it is running on junk wire that volt drop could even be worse..
Poe camera running on a good Poe power will have very little voltage drop and normally not even a 500ma load with IR's on.
Check cables, make sure they are not CCA, if it is CCA it might be past its max distance before the cable Resistance is out the roof..
Next move power within 3 or 6 feet of the camera for best results on a 12v power supply. Also Power supply if it isn't new might be bad.. Remember it can show voltage without load once a load is added is when a Power supply that is no good can fail. Test power supply voltage at load make sure it is not under 10.9v that would almost be a 10% drop and is normally what a camera max drop is
First and easiest thing to do is Test your Camera over same size run cable that your trying to install it on.. No one likes to hear but I am going to guess that it is a cable issue..
However it might be a Power issue as you said you have your Power 30ft from your camera on a 3amp supply? What type of supply is running 12v 3amps at 30ft? Sadly 2amps of power on a 30ft cable even at 18awg size wire is just at the Max Voltage Drop and my guess past a Cable issue is that your Power supply cable could be the issue... However if it is running on junk wire that volt drop could even be worse..
Poe camera running on a good Poe power will have very little voltage drop and normally not even a 500ma load with IR's on.
Check cables, make sure they are not CCA, if it is CCA it might be past its max distance before the cable Resistance is out the roof..
Next move power within 3 or 6 feet of the camera for best results on a 12v power supply. Also Power supply if it isn't new might be bad.. Remember it can show voltage without load once a load is added is when a Power supply that is no good can fail. Test power supply voltage at load make sure it is not under 10.9v that would almost be a 10% drop and is normally what a camera max drop is
Be Safe.
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Re: IP5M-1173E problems
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes the original run was CCA. I figured that was why it would turn on and off so I ran solid. I think you're probably right with the power supply being the problem, at least I hope. 16awg wire running the power I figured would work, but I can't speak for the quality of the power coming out of the supply. I will test it out and run a 3ft line of power from an extension cord. Maybe find a couple of other power supplies too. I will post an update tomorrow evening.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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Re: IP5M-1173E problems
I still don't fully understand what I am missing or what is needed here. I have got it working now. I used countless power supplies and 3 runs of Cat only to still have this same problem. My run is closer to 200ft instead of the 150ft I thought. I have a service box near the base of the pole the camera sits on. I installed an old ethernet switch there and instantly got the camera to show up on the network. works good too. I just don't understand why I needed an ethernet switch at the other end. It's almost like it wants to see a crossover ethernet instead. Cables are crimped and coded correctly. I must have checked that a hundred times.
Re: IP5M-1173E problems
Don't know.. I am going to guess that the Distance on the Cable type is to far. 150 200 feet is or should be within distance. So it could be the Router your connecting isn't strong enough. Or if your connecting via POE Injector it might have distance limits.. I have not looked up the camera but some cameras have Extended range Ethernet some standard however 100 to 200 feet should be under normal range..
So your Router to Router it don't matter the type of cable you use unless it is an older Router because in the last 10 years that I know of anyway Routers will Cross over a cable on its own if needed Also can uncross if a Crossover cable was used on accident and the Router noticed it shouldn't have had a Crossover cable for the current use..
SO I am going to guess that the issue is Distance because Router to Router will work upto 300' without issue and some can work even more distance
So your Router to Router it don't matter the type of cable you use unless it is an older Router because in the last 10 years that I know of anyway Routers will Cross over a cable on its own if needed Also can uncross if a Crossover cable was used on accident and the Router noticed it shouldn't have had a Crossover cable for the current use..
SO I am going to guess that the issue is Distance because Router to Router will work upto 300' without issue and some can work even more distance
Be Safe.
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Re: IP5M-1173E problems
Agreed. Weak router over a long distance is likely the problem.
Easy fix at some point in the future
Thanks for your help!!
Easy fix at some point in the future
Thanks for your help!!