Amcrest IP4M-1063EW-AI-V2 Auto Follow

[carlfulp]

I purchased the IP4M-1063EW-AI-V2 camera recently and am exploring its capabilities. Please see the photo below. Is it possible to have the camera move within the full range of its PTZ capabilities when someone walks through the camera's current view? For example, if someone exits the home, steps on the welcome mat and then walks to the road shown in the upper left corner of the photo, will the camera automatically follow panning, tilting and zooming as needed?

Though I have both Motion Detection and Smart Motion Detection turned on, it currently doesn't auto follow. Note that I do not have an AI rules set. I'm just expecting the camera to auto-follow anything within its field of view. I have other less expensive Amcrest cameras that do this simply by clicking on Human Detection within the Amcrest Smarthome app. I'm looking for similar functionality in this $500+ camera.

Thanks.

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[Revo2Maxx]

So I am not sure, I am going to make a guess where though.. With Auto tracking I would enable your cameras AI, Setup a Tripwire over at your Driveway from the road, Setup so it is tripped with in 5 feet in the drive way or less but for people that might turn around may get alot of alerts not needed.. Then setup another tripwire for humans and enable the Auto Tracking, Then in your front area I would setup an Intrusion and setup again for human and turn on auto tracking. Looking in the Online manual for the camera there don't seem to be any Motion or SMD data offered. While SMD is good for alerts to your phone for humans and or vehicles the down side is that it it also capture all Motion.

[carlfulp]

I have tried the Tripwire and Intrusion AI rules and they will track people but only within the presets. They won’t follow someone outside the present to include the full PTZ range of the camera. I keep thinking I’m missing something real simple given the simplicity of my other less expensive Amcrest cameras. Thanks.

[Revo2Maxx]

So my over costly POS Ai PTZ camera *From different brand* has the ability to auto track within my Ai rules. It also has a Full time Auto Track.

So lets say looking at preset 1 on my camera, I click on the IVS Tripwire, I click on in my case the Trigger Action, I then have the option to define what I want to do like send emails and set off an alarm, record to NAS/FTP and then there is an option at the end for Motion tracking I click that, Apply.. Now if I leave it just like that it will track with in a Set time. Then to the right of that I have a Button *Tracking* if I click that it takes me to a page where I can enable Full time Tracking and then gives a timer of 30 to 300 seconds..

Does your camera have anything within the Tracking area either under the IVS event tab or under PTZ page of the menu?

Looking at the info for the Amcrest 1063 and 1083 they both talk about setup of Auto Tracking by using IVS rules. Just wonder if there is any like my camera that might offer the Full time Auto Tracking? I don't use it myself, Seeing I have mine setup for a Home Position and if I have it at one of the other presets the Auto Tracking is enabled so if there is Tripwire or Intrusion it will auto track until time runs out or the person is out of view..

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[carlfulp]

I've already ordered another camera with "Tracking" in the name that should do what I need. However I'm still playing around with the 1063EW-AI to see if it is worth keeping or simply returning.

Here is my setup.

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The new "Tracking" camera arrives tomorrow. Once I get it setup and it proves itself I'll send the 1063EW-A1 back.

Thanks.

[Revo2Maxx]

What is the model of the newer Camera? Just curious why someone would put the words Auto Tracking in the name of a camera.

I will admit that after I posted about my POS 25x zoom 4mp Ai camera I did an update and while it didn't fix the issues I have with it, I will admit that the Image of the camera at night was much better then it has been for the last 3 years lol..

About your Scene, Can I be honest, If you are looking for a camera to track the movement of someone that crosses your Tripwire to the door I am not sure you will be very happy with the results. I mean sure there are some cameras out there that can do some crazy things. But that all comes with a cost.. See the location of the camera and the area of the trip wire you already have the cameras area in Full view to the door it seems in the picture anyway..

Problem is that at times what we want with a PTZ camera can not always be done with just 1 camera. So for instance your PTZ would be better off mounted on the wall where I see the window in front of the camera current placement. Facing the Garage I am going to assume is to the left of the current scene, Now the camera could be facing the road if that is the main area of interest, With a tripwire that when they access the driveway could trigger and follow, then a second camera Static even with a 2.8mm lens is fine, that is Ai with tripwire that is setup to trigger your PTZ to a preset with an Intrusion box, This setup for Follow and once the camera gets to the preset the person enters the box and you are able to follow them to the front door.

Issue is if you were wanting to get a better view of the person that is going to go over that tripwire and want a camera to zoom in 1 could miss the target, or 2 the camera will go off script before it will follow correctly, this causing the capture of things going wrong more then not..

Here is a video from over 2 years ago that I posted about Analog camera on my 7108-Ai DVR and using the DVRs Ai I sestup tripwires to have normal 20x zoom old Amcrest PTZ go to presets for plate captures. I have since installed Blue Iris and use that with the 10x zoom camera for plates today. Not something I use often but is there in Blue Iris history for 3 days before older data is removed. Anything after that I take from one of my many recorders if I need something seeing they keep footage for 3 months before I worry about recording over it.. https://youtu.be/5J2CrU3BCFA

[carlfulp]

Note that the simple use case depicted by my screen shots of my last post were intended to simply test the camera's capabilities rather than being the final setup that I deploy. I appreciate your honesty concerning that setup.

My home surveillance system consists of 18 cameras. While I've used PTZ cameras inside to detect people entering the home, I haven't used PTZ cameras outdoor. My purchase and deployment of the 1063EW was to experiment with an outdoor PTZ camera to follow cars and humans as they enter my front yard and then walk into my home.

The camera coming tomorrow is the Reolink TrackMix PoE cameras. Its main selling feature is the auto-tracking. While the 1063EW may be superior with its numerous AI functions, it may simply be overkill for my use case as I'm looking for a simpler solution.

Thanks.

[Revo2Maxx]

Understand. Well if you are looking at the model of Reolink I think you might be, keep in mind that the second lens I think is a 1080P zoomed in so the quality of what you see from the first lens won't be the same when the system moves over to the second lens to get a closer look. The one I helped a friend install when they first came out. I didn't kick the tires much just helped him install and setup in Blue Iris. Have to enable RTSP and ONVIF in the WebUi in his software version anyway. There is a few different options for tracking with the Reolink, He used the PT tracking first mode, After a few months with the Reolink he replaced it with the Amcrest 1098EW-AI camera. 4mp 5x zoom PTZ.. Not as many features as the 1063EW-AI-v2 but does what he wanted ..

Understand about the testing point for the Tripwire, I was only trying to offer an idea of what I would do with the camera to give the high quality camera the best action spot from what I could see.. With the down side from using it in area that is confined.

[carlfulp]

So I've mounted the newly delivered Reolink Track Mix camera. I was aware of having to enable the RTSP and ONVIF options from an indoor Reolink I recently deployed. A few clicks and camera does exactly what I wanted. I've got to fine tune some additional settings but I'm good for now. Thanks so much for your help!