Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

[eganmontana]

This is my first entry on this forum. I need assistance on nvr setup for a remote camera-to-nvr configuration. The figure below shows my desired finished configuration. I want to have the figure setup as a standalone with no router, at least after installation and setup. The cameras, switch, and Wireless Bridge will be in a barn and the nvr, TV Monitor, and the other Wireless Bridge will be in the Main Ranch house, about 300 feet apart.

McCracken Calving Barn Video Cameras Block Diagram.jpg

Today I have the cameras, the nvr, and the TV Monitor hooked up with the outputs of the cameras going to the dvr POe inputs. The camera images all show up fine on the TV. I want to connect the TP-Link Switch between the cameras and the nvr input, however, this is where I run into confusion on my part.

The nvr Network - TCP/IP Gateway is 192.168.1.1 and the nvr IP Address is 192.168.1.17 when connected without the switch (cameras to nvr). When I connect cameras to the switch and the switch LAN port to the nvr LAN port I get no images on the TV Monitor.

So, I suspect that I am getting some IP Addressing missmatch. This is a weakness in my network IP Addressing skill levels. I am confused on which ports to connect the switch to the nvr input, i.e., switch lan port to nvr lan port, ??? Is there a proper sequence that I should use in connecting the components together to insure the IP Addresses are automatically setup? Should I have the router connected in this setup?

McCracken Calving Barn Video Cameras Block Diagram.jpg

I have been searching the internet for procedures and have found some help but there is always some missing parts when it comes to the IP Addressing and port connections.

Hopefully, if I can get this step accomplished I can insert the wireless bridges into the configuration without an IP addressing issue.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Revo2Maxx]

Hello and Welcome to the Forum

I am going to take a guess here... When connected to a normal router that is able to give the camera DHCP you can connect you connect to your POE NVR and the camera with some changes in password maybe it will connect however when you move your camera to a Remote Location that is 300 feet from your NVR area and you want to connect your Camera to another Power supply either POE Switch or other method and connect that then to the TP-LINK router that is local to the camera and remote to the network/NVR of normal then you no longer get access? If I am right so far then here is my Solution...

First and might be not as easy as it sounds but is really easy, Log into your Tp-Link router and setup your cameras IP address to have the Routers Ip address with what is called DMZ.. You will want to change the HTTP port for the camera to 888, 88, 8080, or something other then 80 so you can still access your router...
Downside to this method. If you connect other cameras to the Wifi of the router you will not be able to access them outside that router. Then you will want to make a change in the Tp-LINK settings.. Please note that this is normally not a area that would be covered on a Camera site seeing it isn't related to the cameras ability to work as it was designed and might find better solution on TP-LINKs Forum or support..

However Log into your Router (TP-Link) and click on Advanced, then click on network, and change your network from DHCP Server, you will also need to turn off NAT on the router as well. Then you will need to Remove the cable that is connected to the Internet port of the Router and move to one of the 4 network ports (Sorry 3 seeing you have one setup already for your camera) then I would reboot the Router, reboot the camera and now the camera should be setup with the 192.168.1.xxx that is within you normal network range.. and can now setup that camera to your NVR... Also if you connect to that router Wifi cameras they will also be able to connect to your NVR as now your normal router will be handing out the IP in the normal network range...

[eganmontana]

Being new to this forum I see my diagram did not show, just the filename. Before I go any further I need to get that fixed - any quick comments?

[Revo2Maxx]

Want pictures to show up, CLick the Full Editor then click Attachments and add them as long as they are under Forum size and are right to the forum rules then you can add pictures to your threads even as a new user.

[eganmontana]

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[eganmontana]

Ok, I got the diagram on.

Revomaxx2 - thanks for the reply. However, I am still confused, I didn't follow your comments. Please note, I can use the router to configure the setup but when it is all done I will dismantle the setup, transport it to a new location, and rebuild it with no router attached. NO router at final location.

Is this possible?

[Revo2Maxx]

Ok, Well I don't want to say that it can't happen as I don't know the Bridges in question. I will say that I have had one that was over 1700 feet away using Uni wireless bridges and it did work well until my neighbors complained and I had to change the location height of the remote device and started having transmission issues even though I was showing full bars for connection. I still have the setup however I moved a Recorder over there and now only use the bridge for access to view remote WebUI.

Then the main issue is you have 4 cameras that are going to try and make that gap, Then you want to capture that data on a NVR and that is going to be a lot of data passing wirelessly. I don't think you will have that great of results..

However what you will want to do (Should say what I would do anyway) is make the connection with the Bridges, and Connect 1 device over the gap and test. Maybe a laptop or something to make sure that it works as expected...

Problem is you will need to make sure that your Bridge is setup that they don't try to act as a DHCP Server and only work as a Bridge/Repeater. The devices on the remote side need to still be under your normal network Range..

So like for mine, I have one at 10.0.0.154 and my local one is 10.0.0.155 and setup in Bridge/Repeater mode and don't hand out IP addresses. Anything I connect on the remote side uses my Routers DHCP in my home for NAT.

When you have something setup on your local side, should be setup with a Static IP to start with. Then when your Bridge is setup right the data will pass though without any issue ...(Should anyway) Might want to ask at TP-LINK website if there is going to be a problem with Data transmission of 4 cameras over the wireless bridge. I am sure people over there that have them devices setup have a better understanding at what they can or can't do..

[eganmontana]

Ok, thanks Revo2Maxx.
Here is my process. I have all this testing process going on in my home, in my computer "lab". There will be four steps in this testing process.
First, connect the cameras, one at a time to the POe inputs of the nvr.
Second, connect the cameras to the switch and the switch to the nvr lan input.
Third, connect the cameras to the switch, connect the switch to the wireless bridges, and connect the wireless bridge to the nvr lan input.
Fourth, take the entire configuration out of the lab and perform a real life wireless test of at least 100 feet on my property.

If at the end of this testing process I have live images on the TV Monitor then I can perform a wireless distant testing, I have a hay field next to my property that has a good one mile open line-of-sight I can use as test range.

So far I have completed the first step successfully, that is I have live camera images on the TV Monitor.

Now I am on the second step and it is failing, I cannot see the cameras on the TV Monitor. This is where I need help in troubleshooting. This is where I suspect I may have an IP Addressing issue.

Thanks, eganmontana

[Revo2Maxx]

Really you shouldn't connect to the POE NVR if your going to setup Remotely..

So Yes. The NVR POE Ports are 10.1.1.xx(x) starting normally at 10.1.1.65 but can be 10.1.1.128 as well. Your Network is on different IP range and when you connect camera from your NVR to your NETWORK Lan your no longer going to connect unless you were to setup something on a Switch with Port Mirroring and that is all different ball game..

So here is steps I would do if I was you.

Take Camera, Fresh (if now Fresh setup your computer with your normal network range for static IP and then set up a second IP as well Then you can connect to your Cameras IP to make changes to your Normal Network...Then you have 4 cameras need 4 IP's so I would say if me. I would use in your network range as you said you were setup for 192.168.1.140, 192.168.1.141, 192.168.1.142 and last 192.169.1.143 (This way you know where they are)

Then before moving anything you need to bring up your NVR GUI, IF you will have local cameras as well as the remote ones you will want to setup like this..

Turn on the NVR, Right Log in by Right clicking and View 9, put in pattern or password, then starting at the bottom click Ch8 + and do the search, then put in any of the 4 cameras you installed with IPs above or what ever you choose them to be. Then save, If you setup the Camera to have the same password as the NVR it will load in without any other data input. now click ch 7 + and add the second camera, and save and now click ch 6+ and add that one and then click 5 + and add that one again all of them should have went in off the IP you setup for them and if you gave it same pass as your NVR it will load without any more data entery.

Once you have them loaded with your Network Range setup in your NVR you can now take them to your POE Switch and or other power source and connect them. Personally if your Repeater/Bridge is anything like mine I would take it to where you are going to connect it and get it setup. Ranging out 100 and that so on isn't really great Idea, These are kind of if like mine something you want to get setup , Pointed and make sure you can access both local and remote with out any delay. Or very little delay. I would bring up a CMD Prompt and ping -t a good 20 pings to make sure it is fast if it hits triple digit ping delay need to try and keep it as good and low single digit ping as you can. Pinging my Worse connected device right now I had 32ms I try to keep them lower then that.. I mean if I pinged all the devices back there that delay could grow and packets can get lost and that is something you want to avoid.

[Revo2Maxx]

Once you get all your Cameras loaded you can right click the Grid and choose Sequence, Then drag and drop the camera from 8 7 6 5 to where you want them on 1 2 3 4 so they will be seen at the start so you can once you put the camera where you want press save and now right click 4 view 1-4 and now the 4 cameras are listed in your NVR 1-4 however this leaves your real 1-4 open for local POE Cameras to connect at ports 1-4 and you dont' have to try and think am I going to kick out a camera connecting to port 1..

I mean you can do as you like That is just what I have done on my 4116e-HS that is an 8ch POE with 16ch total. I use last 8 for non POE cameras and leave the 8 open POE for connection of POE cameras local to the NVR...