Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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Re: Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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Thanks for the comment Revo2Maxx

Aha - I have the connection from the switch to the nvr working, I have all four cameras Live on the TV Monitor by going through the switch. My problem was not IP Addressing but I was using the wrong input port on the nvr. I was going into the LAN port of the nvr but when I put my switch output from its LAN port to the nvr POE input port I was able to connect.

I was able to overcome ignorance with persevence.

Now I am onto Step Three, connecting the Wireless Bridge between the switch and the nvr. This is on hold since I do not have the Bridges, they on back order from Newegg.com, hopefully in a week or so. After that I will have to wait for spring, and the snow to go away, before I do the outside range testing. When I get this done (successfully I hope) I will update this Post.

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Re: Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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You can run that way but the issue is they will not be able to run from your internet connection if you wanted to make a connection to your cameras by remote means.

Also you will find out really fast when it comes time to add things to the network that your NVR will try to hand out IP addresses to your other devices again making them not able to access the internet..

Your NVR I take it has 8 POE ports on the back like my 4108E does, and then 1 extra one for the normal Network of the system to your normal network. That one is the one you will want to be plugged into your Home Network..

Note. If you keep it connected the way it sounds like you did. You could connect 1 cable and pull all 4 of your cameras into the NVR's port. You will no longer have access to connecting to the NVR for WebUI access or being able to access outside of your own network to check on things while away from home or out on the back 40... As I said in this post already being connected as a By Pass it can also play DHCP Dueling and try to hand out IP address to other things that connect to your home network and conflict with your real Router. When connecting a Bypass it isn't good idea to have longer then on a Temp Camera Config time basis. That is if your NVR don't have a Virtual Host as I am sure it does.. So there would really be no need to every have a bypass cable connected.
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Re: Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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Hi Revo2Maxx
Let me be clear, there is no internet connection to this application, no router, no WebUI, no cell phone monitoring, nada, nothing, check out the block diagram, there is no external connections. That is what makes this relatively simple to deal with.

The end location for this will be on a ranch out in the middle of Wyoming and the only time a person will be using it will be during calving season. You put the cameras over calving pens in a barn, put the pregnant cow in the pen when it is close to calving, and then you can monitor it remotely to watch for any problems. When cows go down to give birth they don't like people coming in to look at them, they get up and watch the person, thus interrupting the birthing. So, in the middle of the night, the owner gets out of bed at 2:00 am, checks the TV Monitor, sees if the birthing is going ok, and either goes to the barn to help or goes back to bed.

The main challenge of this project was dealing with the link between the barn and the house, a wired link was difficult, so a wireless link was looked at and planned. Also, the application needs to be a simple as possible, most ranchers and cowboy don't understand IP Addressing, POe, etc. Even this application is more complicated than I wanted but it does have a basis for future expansion to remote monitoring if desired.

Of course the owner may want to put up a camera to look outside the barn in the future but that is not what this application is designed for.
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Re: Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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OK, Well I hope you get it working the way you want it to then. I will post my last part of insight Thanks for Making that Clear..

Port 1-4 and port 5-8 are shared want to connect to one of them ports cameras need 10.1.1.xxx range 1 cable connected to port 5-8 setup on NVR 5-8 won't work on 1-4 unless you connect cable to 1-4...

However with as you said your NVR being on 192.168.1.17 setting up your cameras on 192.168.1.xxx range and your cable connected at the Normal NVR single Port that will let you connect all 8 over that 1 Cable..

Sorry It wasn't understood what you were trying to do..

So I am clear..

When you connect camera to port 1, 2, 3, 4 of the NVR (4 POE IP CAMERA) once you remove them the info on the NVR is Removed. When you connect (1 cable) to 1-4 you will need to now do a search for cameras and load 1 - 4 If (that) cable is on 5-8 then again you would have to do each search on cameras 5-8... Wanting to keep it simple then cable on port 1-4 load your cameras on 1-4 and you will be good.. Just remembers how your talking about doing it, that isn't the best way if someone that isn't you are looking to setup another camera after you install your Setup for them... Doing it on normal IP port with cameras using the 192.168.1.xxx range 1 cable 8 camera ability is best way...

Good Luck in your Business.
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Re: Need procedure for NVR Switch Configurating

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This is an update on my "Wyoming Bridge" project for a wireless connection between a ranch barn and the ranch house, a distance of about 200 feet. I have successfully been able to get the equipment configuration in the diagram working. I can see the four cameras on the TV monitor in my working lab in my home. Although the wireless distance in the lab is only about 6 feet the demonstration shows that it should work as designed, I still have to perform the outside range testing to prove out an effective line-of-sight connection, more on that when the snow goes off.

The one thing that did give me problems was IP addressing connectivity but this was solve by making sure that the Network Video Recorder IP address was static and the camera IP addresses were static. After I got that resolved I was able to randomly power-down and power-up the system with automatic connectivity. Just put the power to the two portions, wait for the boot-up process, and after a couple of minutes the TV monitor is full of live images.

One objective of this project was no router or internet connections, because in this case, neither were available. The Router and Computer are shown here as they were used during setup and configuration purposes but are not used after that. I will update this posting after my next two steps, local range testing between buildings and extended range testing of possibly 1 mile line-of-sight.

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