Motion detection is driving me crazy - NV2116-HS

[RickciR]

I currently have 12 cameras connected. I want recording to take place on motion only. Some background: I have a camera under our deck covering a window. There's no need to record anything down there unless someone is skulking around trying to break in. Same for a camera in our large shed we use for equipment storage. I only need it triggered if someone is inside. For the camera pointing at the back yard fence, I have the motion zone on the gate only. Camera on the East side of the house has zones on the service door and garage door, and another on the driveway. You get the idea. No matter what I do, the slightest motion triggers a recording.

Under the deck, a leaf blowing triggered the system. Sensitivity is 0, threshold is 100. The leaf was not even in the detection zone. The shed camera triggers with no movement. Maybe sunlight or shadows? Again Sensitivity is 0, threshold is 100. It's happening on every camera.

I have tried making the entire frame one zone with sensitivity 0, threshold 100. Then a 2nd zone that's sensitivity 25, threshold 75. Any movement anywhere triggers it. I just want people and vehicles to trigger it. I've tried only one zone covering a small area. Again, any movement anywhere triggers it.

Any suggestions? Do I just say screw it and turn off motion detect?

[Revo2Maxx]

Sadly it is hard to say and different cameras are different as well.. Then another thing that I found to be good is what Amcrest had it set on to start with so 5 and 60 seems to be a good mix

However with that said there are times that I have said just that.. Forget it and record FULL TIME.. That is because I live in an area that has High Humid nights and that triggers more then the large amount of Rain nights that I have.. Then to make it worse it is the time of year that is even worse because normally it snows here a lot.. Last year oddly I think I might have shoveled the Drive once or twice and was a odd winter... Cool thing about Winter is my non IR cameras will be able to see 50% to 80% better then they can without the snow..

So there are some things that some people have reported doing when they have large false alerts and that is a Checker board grid.. Do every other pixel in the area your trying to detect... I have not tried that because for me settings work ok normally..

I do have a High Traffic area in a good few of my cameras So I have it full time and motion just to get the ability to watch the Smart Search in playback to get a Fast play of what happen that day and helps me find an event I am looking for without having a time I can play all day in about 10 min where it will play back the days events... IF I see something then i can stop the smart search and go to the time of the event and watch it... Sadly it is that way for all my Recorders don't matter if it is Amcrest, Dahua, Dahua OEM, or Hikvision and or my Hikvision OEM they area all crazy trying to get Motion setup right...

The best thing to do to be honest, Is AI the Events are good events from start to finish... Now I can't say that for all my AI cameras from Yester year but all of the ones that I use for Line crossing and or scene change are good events.. My Human Detection on my Amcrest Ash21 I get a False every now and again but most times is good for alerts.. My almost 2000 Samsung was very good on Detection with AI turned on however not sure if it was the last Update I did or if the camera is just getting old and not to happy with me after the last 4 years of use..

Sadly there is no inputs on the 2116-hS or I would say best bet would be PIR Sensor and might be an option for other machine you could import the feed from and get alerts that way and I do have a few that are setup that way.. Some that are setup with Door and window sensors as well.. One of them go off you are sure it is a good event..

Night time with IR will get really bad if you live in a bug, rain, or humid area like I do.. Lights going by Reflections of head lights you have to block or adjust camera not to have that FOV to pick up lights...

Up till the last Update and Reset I used to have Motion for day, Full at night on most all my channels now I have them setup different and at times try to find footage that isn't there lol..

[RickciR]

Do the settings on the cameras matter? Most are Amcrest and I'm basically ignoring the in-camera options since I'm using the NVR.

[Revo2Maxx]

Settings made in camera should move over to the NVR and same thing with NVR , SO the settings you change in NVR should move over to the Camera.. That is one of the issues that people can have using a different Branded Camera is that at times some cameras will not talk with the NVR and the same back even though they are ONVIF there could be something within one or the other that just don't like to change in MOTION of the Camera so in that case it is MUTE to try and setup that camera to NVR for motion..

Then there are some cameras for some odd reason things just act up even being a Amcrest Camera...

Another issue I have found as well.. At times when you connect to Multi Recorders or things that might change the Motion info it could be setup in a different way that ends up blocking your first Recorder.. I had this happen a few times and I don't know why seeing they were both Amcrest Recorders.. It wasn't that I was connecting from one recorder to another I use using 1 camera paired to 2 recorders and it gets things all messed up..

The last time I remember doing this was using an older Amcrest NVR, removed fixed and then had issue when doing same on my Amcrest DVR's IP ch.. removed and fixed and then connected to my Dahua DVR and didn't have an issue and things ran smooth for 3 or 4 months.. I then removed the camera from that Dahua machine and connected it to one of my Dahua POE NVR's and the issue came back.. Oddly enough it also made some strange camera Config changes and I didn't notice until that night when the camera should have went form day settings to night settings but my Screen was black and that was because I had the Shutter at 1/100000 for day time and night time it is set for 1/4.. So the software between the 2 machines 1 had the ability to work with the Schedules and my Older 8ch Dahua POE NVR that has OLD FW has different way of running the Schedule but it don't translate this info to the camera it just cuts the cameras set Schedule...

So I am mentioning this incase you are moving cameras and Recorders around and things that it can cause minor and sometime major issues between Recorders... I have had cameras connected to more then a few different recording and storage types without issue...

One of the Biggest Issue is with ASP for me anyway.. Others seem to like it but I connect my NVR to ASP and every Camera will go off in Crazy World for Times lol...

I have been meaning to ask you.. Seeing your using 2116-HS and I assume on the 2020 FW when you did the Reset was the main setting option for Country and Language grayed out? Only thing that you could change on that screen was NTSC or PAL? if you don't remember that is ok.. I had that issue so took a Picture of it because I found it odd that I couldn't Pick the USA and had me in some Middle East Country??